Hate is a strong word, no? I simply don't tolerate rule breakers.
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Hate is a strong word, no? I simply don't tolerate rule breakers.
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Hatred in the loose sense then, or rather the internet sense if you prefer.
He's still allowed to hover around though
So I take it he doesn't sell through LOMCN then.
I don't think selling your hard work is necessarily bad is all i'm saying. But it does rather go against the nature of this environment doesn't it?
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And I'll trust you I think. Not that I had any inclination or reason to need to trust him mind lol
He's still allowed to hover around though
So I take it he doesn't sell through LOMCN then. I don't think selling your hard work is necessarily bad is all i'm saying. But it does rather go against the nature of this environment doesn't it?
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And I'll trust you I think. Not that I had any inclination or reason to need to trust him mind lol
Tbh i wouldn't trust myself. ^^ That's this difference between me and you, Iv'e been around a lot longer to see some of the disagreements on this forumHatred in the loose sense then, or rather the internet sense if you prefer.
He's still allowed to hover around though
I don't think selling your hard work is necessarily bad is all i'm saying. But it does rather go against the nature of this environment doesn't it?
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And I'll trust you I think. Not that I had any inclination or reason to need to trust him mind lol
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I've been lurking for about 8 years believe it or not. It's just the last 3-4 months I've actually taken part. I'm sure my old account still exists in some old DB, but i'm damned if i remember those late teen days.
I seem to know nothing of the 'personalities' that everyone else seems to know however, so that should show how often I 'lurked'. Or how shite my memory is.
Hatred in the loose sense then, or rather the internet sense if you prefer.
He's still allowed to hover around though
I don't think selling your hard work is necessarily bad is all i'm saying. But it does rather go against the nature of this environment doesn't it?
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And I'll trust you I think. Not that I had any inclination or reason to need to trust him mind lol
I could ban him but what's the point when he has lackeys on here anyway scuttling around like vermin. The guy hasn't posted in 9 months and you saw how quickly he was notified of his name being "tarnished".
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Meh, I was kinda aware of his name as he posted in the Crystal section saying he was working on his custom version of those... shame we won't benefit from that then by the sounds of it. Was interested to see them, hence my questions.
If you give him money for his updates then he will give them you.. but once you stop he tend's to make the files useless.
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I hear you.
I think the main reason I found it intriguing as I'm a web designer mostly, and I often get customers getting annoyed at what I charge for. "It's just a website" or "How could it take an hour to do that? It's just a *insert x*"
Customers often send me the source (images, text content etc) and I work on that. If something takes me 2 hours, you are paying for 2 hours. Then the 'But it's my images, you've just put on a page" etc starts sometimes - as if i'm extorting them lol
It's mostly unrelated/different scenarios, but the two were similar enough to peak my interest is all.
No I agree to a degree, but when it comes to server files I personally don't think lomcn would have lasted this long if we didn't have the free files policy
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Sounds like a personal vendetta to me. I have no problem paying a professional developer for a great unique product that is stable and secure.
I'm by far not his lackey, but I do respect the rights to his work.
Iceman was going to give me the files as well but I decided I owed it to him to pay him for his work, even after my 2 year break he had no problem giving them to me for a fair price along with source code and support.
I guess it really makes no difference to you guys anyways, rip off and distribute the work of the Chinese why not start ripping off people from our own community. While your there threaten the security and stability of all the mid range successful servers that have paid their dues and continually developed their server for the community you hold so dear.
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I'm by far not his lackey, but I do respect the rights to his work.
Iceman was going to give me the files as well but I decided I owed it to him to pay him for his work, even after my 2 year break he had no problem giving them to me for a fair price along with source code and support.
I guess it really makes no difference to you guys anyways, rip off and distribute the work of the Chinese why not start ripping off people from our own community. While your there threaten the security and stability of all the mid range successful servers that have paid their dues and continually developed their server for the community you hold so dear.
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I'm not sure what files your using Hershire, is it 2.3 or 2.6? which hes modified, either way you and andreas still rip off Chinese and Korean. tbh wouldn't be an issue if chronicles got the memo of this free files policy ^^
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I'd pay chronicles for his files haha, I appreciate the work people put into their work and they deserve compensation.
I run a non profit server and I paid out of my own pocket for the updated files.
They are an updated version of 2.3 based on lemon I think. Have sins,archers,mounts, new skills etc..
I only bought the source a couple weeks ago so still sorting through the updates. Until his work with iceman he wasn't willing to part with the source code. Iceman obviously took advantage of the collaboration/failure in fallen heroes and called the code his own.
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I run a non profit server and I paid out of my own pocket for the updated files.
They are an updated version of 2.3 based on lemon I think. Have sins,archers,mounts, new skills etc..
I only bought the source a couple weeks ago so still sorting through the updates. Until his work with iceman he wasn't willing to part with the source code. Iceman obviously took advantage of the collaboration/failure in fallen heroes and called the code his own.
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If one of Chronicles or Arcadia team members went rogue and began releasing the source code publicly on lomcn without the developers permission would that be acceptable as well?
I'm just saying this is a very unethical path were heading down if the answer is yes.
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I'm just saying this is a very unethical path were heading down if the answer is yes.
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this has been attempted already.. LOMCN stepped in and removed,, (You might of noticed Chronicles co-owners are admins on LOMCN)
What you do with your money is your own business, but you need to respect our ethos so kindly stop talking about it.
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Pardon? Ripping off people from our own community is exactly what people like Andreas has done... taken files, tools, ideas, help and chosen to give nothing in return without profiting. You seem somewhat confused on the subject
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I'm done arguing it's plain to see there's no reasoning with you.
Funny how when it happens to a server involved with admins or mods it's not ok but when it's a mod releasing somone else's work it's fine.
Have a good day!
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Funny how when it happens to a server involved with admins or mods it's not ok but when it's a mod releasing somone else's work it's fine.
Have a good day!
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